I'll talk a bit about Kitimat. We'll do that one because it's the prime example right now. It's an LNG terminal in B.C. We're currently going through the planning stage for a workforce for that project with a major construction company and a major oil company. A couple of them are partners on that project. We're currently planning a workforce to start construction soon.
As for generally what happens, an energy company will decide that they're going to do an expansion, and there is an RFP process wherein construction companies bid on that project. That's generally two years before any worker ever hits the ground. It's about a two-year window between when Suncor, say, or Exxon, or Imperial decides they're going to build something and when the worker actually gets to the job. In that time, there's the bidding process, there's the engineering, and there's all kinds of other stuff that's going on. We're still waiting for the Mackenzie pipeline, so....