That's okay. I'm going to concentrate on you because I'm very interested in your sector, and of course your sector is very closely linked to the fossil fuel sector, particularly in clean technologies to produce cleaner products from fossil fuels, whether electricity or gasoline or so forth.
I've had some experience with dialogues in the province I'm from—Alberta—pursuing cleaner emissions and so forth. We've found, and in fact I'm told by the clean energy sector in Alberta, that they're not looking for handouts, particularly for energy efficiency. They're looking for regulatory triggers such as a price on carbon. I wonder if you could speak to that. What do you see as the main missing triggers to actually shift investment by the oil and gas sector towards actually deploying cleaner technology?