It's very difficult. It's very difficult for families who are in Saint John, not only for the parents and the children who are separated from their spouses for weeks at a time but also difficult for the grandparents. What we see increasingly happen—I have seen countless stories of this—is that parents who have worked in Alberta, for example, for a couple of years will finally decide to leave and go to Alberta. The grandparents are separated from their grandchildren, and suddenly the grandparents decide they need to be closer to that family, so they leave too. We've lost not just one but two and three generations of Atlantic Canadians and New Brunswickers.
This is slowly but surely pulling apart the fabric of the entire province. Right now we have experienced another population decline. It's not sustainable. We're either going to be self-sustaining or we're going to be reliant on the rest of the country to do for us what we should be able to do for ourselves.
It's as simple as that, Mr. Leef.