Thanks. I'm not sure I got an answer to my question, but I appreciated your effort.
To my second question, if there's time, I would appreciate a response from Dr. Allan, Mr. Priaro, and Mr. Myers. It's on the theme of economic diversification versus diversification of markets. Generally speaking, I think that people would agree that's currently what the economic strategy is in Canada—to find more diversified markets for our raw bitumen.
We had very heart-rending testimony from representatives from New Brunswick a few meetings back, particularly from the mayor of Saint John. When the question was put to him whether the people in New Brunswick were grateful for the jobs being provided in Canada, he shared the story that first of all, they lost the workers, and then they lost the parents of the workers because they wanted to be with their kids, and now they've lost the grandparents, who want to be with their grandkids who relocated to Alberta. They're trying to make a strong case that they would like a piece of pie, and obviously, they would support the east-west pipeline.
My question is to each of the three of you. Would it be fair to say that there would be majorly extrapolated increased benefits to Canadians, including in western Canada—Alberta, Saskatchewan—and eastern Canada, if there was upgrading in Alberta or Saskatchewan, for example, which would then allow the shipping of the crude and refining in eastern Canada, whether it's Ontario, Quebec, or the Maritimes?