I'll go to Dr. Leach.
Using that as a basis, you were pointing out earlier about how more intensive processing doesn't exactly mean more economic benefits. It often could be more of a transfer of benefits from one source to another. But when you listen to Mr. Mallay's responses, there's possibly no government interference.
In situations like that, are those areas where more value-added could be put into the Canadian economy? It may not be a question of if value-added works, but where it works based on market determinants.