I'm not into debate; I'm speaking to the point of order. The point of order is that the question is “benefit who?” Mr. Turner has testified that a number of first nations and others have raised concerns about the implications for them of pursuing unconventional oil and gas. I'm simply giving him the opportunity to find out if he thinks there is anything federally that could help that dialogue in assessing and resolving the issues of the benefits from pursuing unconventional oil and gas.