Thank you.
Perhaps another way of answering your question is, how do we actually stimulate a market for energy efficiency, energy conservation? To go to back to a comment that was made on the other side, it seems that the most effective way of getting energy efficiency off the ground is to send a price signal through the market.
It's going to be very difficult if people are trying to do an internal return on the investment when they're getting their gas at 15% or 20% of the cost of production. That is a problem. There are market reforms that need to happen before you can go off with private companies that are trying to do business on a commercial basis in a market that is dysfunctional.