I would support what's just been said, both from the Mining Association and Publish What You Pay Canada.
The issue I wanted to raise, using this opportunity, was on something that CAPP mentioned earlier. First, we're obviously quite pleased to hear that CAPP would like to align with the U.K. The rules there are fairly strong, but I did want to raise this issue of confidentiality and exemptions.
It's a bit of a red-herring issue. Quite simply, the information that we're requesting, or that this legislation will make available, is not the stuff of trade secrets. There are things that are found in contracts or in legislation that are trade secrets—geological information, sometimes information about future deals—but payments information isn't. There's not a single example that any companies in the United States or in Europe have come up with to show that a foreign jurisdiction does not allow this type of information to be made public.
Two examples were brought up—China and Angola—in various submissions, say, to the SEC and elsewhere. Petrobras in Brazil provides payments information in both those countries.