Yes, it's another challenge we are facing. It's rather easy to develop new recipes in the lab. The idea is to export those new products and new recipes from the lab to the processing plant, and we are facing a tremendous.... If I compare what is going on in Sweden, for instance, with eastern Canada—I have in mind New Brunswick, Quebec, and Ontario—most of our workers in wood processing plants have minimal computer knowledge. If we are really serious about the automatization and development of processing plants that are more productive, we have to rely on workers who have computer knowledge, who have a feeling for participating in organizational innovation.
When you try to achieve a better product at the lowest cost, you need to rely on the guy on the floor who knows exactly what is going on, but he has to have the words to express himself. That is the main challenge we are facing in terms of training if we want to be successful with regard to technological innovation.