Yes, I think that what Mr. deMarsh is talking about needs to be considered as being foremost.
We had a program, the first nations forestry program, where there were subsidies paid to hire first nations, and there was training. The sad part was that, once the subsidies were taken away, the jobs weren't there. The last individual who was working on that said there was one individual who still had a job, and I think he was driving a truck.
It's a cultural shift that we need to see. We need to have education, and not on just one end, where we're educating first nations in the various fields. We need to have a cultural awareness with the industry, as well.