In terms of the story that Joe was talking about with that mill in Atikokan, what happened was that it was a particleboard plant and in 2008 with the downturn in the economy, it went bankrupt. The town took a chance; we took it over and sold it to a gentleman who was a great businessman in Thunder Bay, but he had to turn around and sell it because he was spending his own money and the banks wouldn't give him the money to move forward on upgrading it to a pelletizing plant because the banks weren't convinced that forestry was good.
That's why that was a problem. That's why we had to sell it to an American firm, Rentech, that's operating now. Otherwise, it would probably still be going in the partnership that Joe was talking about.