Right now there are a number of different programs, whether they are federal or provincial. In regard to fiscal years, how much money is there and how long the program is going to run, it's very difficult to start putting in applications, make progress, keep the progress, and maintain it.
What we're saying is that if a federal or provincial government is going to invest in a business to get it started, and if it takes two years to do your class 20 or your class 10, do the business plan, get everything developed, and resolve any kind of environmental issues, then have that consistent funding there for that company to get off and running. Once you do all the preparation and you're ready for construction, everything's done.
I used to be with the Red Rock Indian Band. I was elected chief and onto council. Again, it wasn't with regard to forestry, but to give you an example, we saw where a program was funded but because it took so long to get the application or to get it approved or anything else, we had to lay people off. Then what happens is you have to turn around and sometimes hire new people because the other people have other jobs and you're starting all over again.
What we're trying to say is let's find a more effective, more efficient, cost-effective way to get these businesses up and running and to build on that for the communities.