I appreciate the honourable member's question.
The remarks from the new president and CEO of Cliffs are highly regrettable. I don't think they reflect their own internal business conditions and ability to actually advance in the Ring of Fire.
That said, the member's question addresses two key elements that structurally pose significant challenges for Ring of Fire development. They are remoteness, and obviously the costs of separation. This member coming from Thunder Bay—Superior North I think would be particularly interested in the large residual question of how that region is developed. Since the markets are not substantially developed—