Kruger is not looking for subsidies to run our business, but in the industry in Canada I think we have a fantastic pool of talent among research centres, like FPInnovations, all the universities, and other schools in Canada.
If the government can support all of these institutions to work on projects that can benefit the industry and give the industry some areas of solution to retool itself, to reinvent itself, I think that is the role of governments. Then industry will take the ideas, which we did with the CF. We put in our share and government put in its share, and now we have a three-year program and hopefully it's going to lead to something. But then at one point we're going to have to find a way to finance the next step, which would be to go commercial.