I'll add that following the Wells report, the C-NLOPB clarified the role of the chief safety officer. The terms of reference for that position are available online.
The board took further measures to separate the safety function within the board, consistent with recommendation 29(b) from Judge Wells. At that time there was an extensive public search to identify and recruit the chief safety officer, who's still in place, and as to the term, the longer the better, as far as I'm concerned, with respect to our current CSO.
In terms of the question of conflict, or the optics of conflict, as I mentioned in my opening statement, safety is always our top priority. I've only been in the position for about nine months, but it's hard for me to conceive of a situation wherein the word of the CSO would not be paramount in any board decision.