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I just wanted to ask you, Mr. MacFarlane, about your comment about how there's this belief that the mountain pine beetle kills swaths of forest and then those forests become more prone to fire. As an ecologist, I've never seen any scientific evidence for this. It seems to me that when they're red and there are needles on they're susceptible, but once they drop their needles I think fire would have a harder time going through there than through a live green forest. But I keep hearing this being repeated, and I just wonder if you know of any science on that. I've looked in the literature and haven't found anything to support that.