There are the beginnings of it. There are some good indigenous organizations working with the provincial ministry of forests and natural resources, the B.C. First Nations Forestry Council and, in the interior, some of the tribal councils. Stuwix forest management and some of the Nlaka'pamux groups are forging new ways of talking about and doing things on the land.
Is it formalized? Is it settled in terms of the provincial guidebooks being changed? I would say no. That story is still being written, but the trajectory is clear. The arc of history is clear. As Martin Luther King says, it's long but it points towards justice. It points towards doing things just a bit better every day, no offence to anybody. We can improve on what our ancestors, indigenous and non-indigenous, have done. That's happening.
Is it happening enough? I know that with the change of government there have been better talks, but I think that Keith Atkinson and some of the other indigenous leaders in the region, including Terry Teegee, vice-chief of BCAFN, who is a forester from the interior, could give you a really detailed answer on what could be improved. I would say there's no doubt that the provincial B.C. forest ministry would have questions, too, and would ask how we can improve.
It's a matter of resourcing that and creating the table space where those solutions can come.