That's a good question. Thank you for the question, Mr. Serré. I'll answer it completely.
I'll start with the political. My grandfather, John Young, was a proud member of the Progressive Conservative Party in Manitoba and federally his whole life. My father, my uncles and my aunts are, to this day, diehard Liberals. My cousins and a lot of the other young people I went to university with are dippers. They're with the NDP.
Sir, I guess I'm surrounded by family. It doesn't matter what political stripe you might have on.
On forestry and provincial jurisdiction and what governments can do differently.... We have a set of tables in front of us, and you can clearly see the provincial tenure in Canada ranging from 0% all the way up to the mid-30%. There is variability in how provincial governments are working with indigenous groups to reconcile the forest tenure regime. There are differences there, but we're responsible enough now.... We actually have the Canadian Council of Forest Ministers, the first ministers' table, the forest ministers' table, and the environment ministers' table, where we have to take data like these and discuss them. What are the differences in policy here? What are the differences in outcome?
One thing we heard initially, in the early eighties, when we had indigenous groups.... Actually it was in B.C. that the first indigenous tenure was taken up. We heard from many other provinces, “Canada will end if indigenous groups have tenure. The economy will end in our regions.” Clearly, this is not the case. It is the exact opposite. When you have indigenous responsibility in collaboration with the provincial government, you get advanced manufacturing investment, job stabilization and market entry into other countries that are looking at the indigenous profile of manufactured Canadian products. They want it.
We have to discuss it, and we have to look at the real differences in policy and opinion. Guess what. Not everybody is going to agree on what to do, but let's run the experiment. Let's see whose approach works. Time is an ongoing story, sir. We'll all be here in another 5,000 years. We're just really starting this story.