Sure. Very quickly I'll say that for things like a two-year payback, if it's a really, really obvious opportunity, it's very easy without any incentive. Once you get into the eight- or nine-year range, we find that gives a lot of businesses pause, and if incentives can bring that down to five, six or seven years, in our experience that has made a big difference, in terms of making those products something they want to invest in.
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