Sometimes yes and sometimes no. It depends on their capital situation and what they want to do with the asset in the long term. Somebody might want to make it energy efficient so that they can sell it, or they might want to make it energy efficient so that they can reduce operating costs over the long term to get higher net rents. It really depends on the motivation.
We're there to take that raw number and help them to use that in the business case for what they need done or if they need financing for it. There are different options for them to—