Yes, it's very true. There is a shortage of skilled labour in the energy efficiency technical pieces. There's a change in the people required to run buildings and facilities. Where anybody could sort of run a building before, now they have all these different technologies there. You don't necessarily need to be a computer programmer, but you need to be very computer literate to operate these buildings.
At the same time, there's a challenge because you have new people. The young people who are coming out, they're very computer literate, but they don't understand the systems that well. For example, in a presentation we attended a couple of days ago, they were saying the cooling tower was consuming tons of water. The building operator goes, “See? On the computer screen everything's fine. We don't know what's happening”. He didn't actually go up and look at the valve or look at the cooling tower and see that the valve was actually stuck open and the computer sensor was broken.
We need a bit of the old and the new together in a training program. Maybe that's the construction association. There are groups out there who would be attuned to doing that. There may be colleges, as well.