There are myriad problems, however. We would like to get oil to those refineries in places like New Brunswick, but there's a bunch of problems. The biggest one is that the Irving refinery in New Brunswick, like a lot of refineries in other parts of the world that the industry says it would like to access, doesn't currently have the capacity to take raw or diluted bitumen as a feedstock to turn it into higher-value products. They are what we call “cracking” refineries. In order to take bitumen as a feedstock, a refinery needs to have coking capacity. The New Brunswick refinery doesn't, and as far as I know, they don't have any plans to add coking capacity.
If we're going to build a pipeline to eastern refineries, we support that, and we're on record as supporting that, but if we're going to be sending feedstock to them, we should be sending them a feedstock they can actually use, which would be synthetic crude. They wouldn't have to retool to use synthetic crude. That would mean it would have to be upgraded here first, to synthetic crude, and put in a pipeline.
By the way, you wouldn't have to use so much pipeline capacity to get it all the way to New Brunswick if you sent it as synthetic crude. With bitumen you have to dilute it by 30% with diluent, which is expensive in and of itself, and you would also need bigger pipelines. But if—