Evidence of meeting #132 for Natural Resources in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was peoples.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ciaran O'Faircheallaigh  Professor, Griffith University, As an Individual
Gunn-Britt Retter  Head, Arctic and Environment Unit, Saami Council
Brenda Gunn  Associate Professor, Faculty of Law, University of Manitoba, As an Individual

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

What I would say is that if you can guarantee and confirm a date and a time when the minister will appear here at the natural resources committee, I absolutely would love to go back to the study. If not, yes, I will continue.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

The date will be April 30. The time will be 3:30 in the afternoon.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Great.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

So can we move on?

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Yes, let's do that.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Nick Whalen Liberal St. John's East, NL

We can just leave the motion open but not debate it right now. We'll discuss it next week, because I think Ms. Stubbs might want him twice.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

That was my understanding as well, yes.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

We can adjourn debate on the motion now.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Sure.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

We can set aside some committee business on Tuesday and deal with it then.

We can move on to witnesses.

Is that acceptable to everybody then?

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Georgina Jolibois NDP Desnethé—Missinippi—Churchill River, SK

I just want to make some points here. I've had my hand up.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

I saw that. I wasn't ignoring you.

Do you want to speak to something about the motion?

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Georgina Jolibois NDP Desnethé—Missinippi—Churchill River, SK

I do want to speak to this piece as well as to the motion because of the importance that all of industry.... Regardless of what province or territory we're in, the indigenous people are impacted and want to have full participation, but due to government regulations and industry's understanding, the indigenous communities always end up losing out. I'm very concerned about that.

I want to thank my colleague to my right here. Talking to the minister is very crucial because, as I'm learning and as I've seen across Canada, industry needs to occur, but indigenous communities are required to be involved.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Thank you. You're welcome to come back and join us any time we're meeting.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Georgina Jolibois NDP Desnethé—Missinippi—Churchill River, SK

I understand that. I don't appreciate the way you said it because I find that condescending, but it's really significant—

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

What I was saying is that we're going to continue discussing this motion on Tuesday, so I welcome you to come back and participate. That was my point.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Georgina Jolibois NDP Desnethé—Missinippi—Churchill River, SK

But again, you're just assuming. I want to make sure that my point is made while we have this opportunity, because we're not going to have these witnesses on Tuesday and I really appreciate the witnesses who are here today with us.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

All right, thank you.

Are we all in agreement on how we're dealing with this motion then?

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

We're all in agreement, and we're also in agreement that if that minister does not get here, this will happen every day, every time we meet.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

I'm not sure we agree on that. That's entirely up to you.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Okay, I'll put you on notice then.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Are your questions with respect to the motion? If they're with respect to the motion we're talking about, that's fine. Otherwise I'd like to move on and get to the witnesses.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

TJ Harvey Liberal Tobique—Mactaquac, NB

If the minister does not in fact show up on April 30, you have my full support to table the motion again.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Thank you, Mr. Harvey. We have Albertans in all Canadians.

Mr. Chair, given how important this study is and my gratitude to the witnesses for being here, and the comments of my colleague who doesn't get to participate on a regular basis, if it's okay with you, I would cede my questioning to my NDP colleague to go ahead. Then we'll see if we can get in a follow-up round afterwards.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

Absolutely. That's entirely up to you.