I sound like a broken record a little bit on this, but we really rely.... We think that the social licence to operate—that's not my favourite term—which really is granted, denied, given, or withheld, I'm not going to use the C-word, occurs on the ground with the community. We work directly with the communities, and the more we understand, again, issues, impacts, and how we can include our communities in the development of the project....
In terms of UNDRIP or Supreme Court decisions, or even the section 35, it doesn't provide, in practice—this is from experience—clarity for the proponent on the ground. We think there's an opportunity to look at a principled framework that aligns interests for industry, first nations, and government, and that potentially gets people to a better understanding, a consensus, over what projects work and don't work. This is not to say that projects always work, but if they don't, then you understand right away and you move on.