All right. I could certainly see that from the current government. I'm surprised that ours was saying that. Anyway, to be serious again, I think everyone around the table is positive about the opportunities there for innovation. If I go back to the carbon pricing argument a little bit, innovation is great, and there have been great examples of it, but there are some processes and situations that simply don't allow you to innovate further, as far as I know. We've heard from potash companies about the heating intensity that's required. They electrified their vehicle fleet, they've done a bunch of things to reduce their carbon footprint, but their heating costs are fixed. The same is true for a diamond mine in the Northwest Territories that spends tens of millions of dollars on simply heating the mine shaft and getting fuel in on the ice roads and things like that.
Part one of my question is, what about the parts of this industry that you cannot innovate? Then to go back to your comment that we're losing ground in competitiveness, I guess I'm a little confused about why the Mining Association of Canada, which you said speaks for you on this.... I'm confused because if we're talking about innovation and gaining ground, why would the mining sector be embracing an increase to their pricing inputs through a carbon tax that admittedly would cause, in the words of your presentation, an immediate slowdown at a time when commodity prices are down? Just walk me through how we can help make up the ground that we're losing in competitiveness if we are in a less competitive tax environment.
Another question is, if the carbon pricing is supposed to force sectors to innovate, why should the government then also be providing government support for innovation? Isn't the tax supposed to force industry in that direction?
There are a lot of things there, but I welcome any comments you may have.