Thank you very much for the question.
We're just starting to get our heads around the whole issue of cap and trade and carbon tax and what have you. I'll be honest with you. I don't fully comprehend the implications yet. I can tell you that the existing Ontario program, although it certainly was welcomed when it was initiated and we pressed hard for it to become permanent, is still inadequate in terms of major industries in northern Ontario. By this I mean that there is only so much money in the kitty, and it's all being taken up by existing operators.
Secondly, because it relates to a company's ability to initiate environmentally friendly processes to change what they're doing now, it really makes it more difficult for any new player, a new mine or a new forest operation, to actually access the dollars, assuming that the program was expanded, because anybody building something now is going to use the most efficient motors, the most efficient control systems, the most energy-efficient way of doing things, so they won't be eligible.
The other thing is that there is a restriction on who can participate. Any small producer, if they have a mine that doesn't require a lot of electrical power, may in fact not even meet the threshold. Irrespective of carbon taxes or cap and trade, there is still a lot of work to be done to make it more affordable to operate. As John mentioned before, a large percentage of the costs of operating a mine is for energy.