I'm saying there needs to be an agreement on a process to reach consent.
It's also a simple practical reality, particularly when you're looking at developments in remote communities. How would you propose to build a mine if a community right next to it is completely opposed to it? How much policing are you going to bring in? Are you going to bring in the army? Like, what's involved here? There has to be consent. There has to be a substantial degree of consent.
Instead of arguing about UNDRIP, which I don't think is very useful—that ship has kind of sailed—it's incumbent on us to say, well, this is how we interpret it, and this is how we think we're going to implement it. Quite frankly, it's not simply going to be the federal government alone determining this question, because the provinces are directly involved and the first nations are directly involved.
So yes, it's a challenge. We have challenges of governance. Many of the challenges of governance we have are created by the Indian Act and are a product of an act that, in my view, has to be completely changed. I put forward a private member's bill to get rid of it, so I think everybody knows how I feel about it. I think it stands in the way of reason in terms of our getting to the next stage of the relationship.