I think the potential of the Ring of Fire is huge, and the estimates go very high, but the fact of the matter is that developing a resource like that, in addition to requiring the participation and consent of the first nations, also requires considerable infrastructure investment over quite a substantial period of time. Frankly, it also requires a different market condition. I mean, mining is in the tank right now, except for gold mining, because of prices. That's what is behind the challenge we've had.