Well, no, Australia has not actually done a better job. Australia has done a far better job of pouring large amounts of money into research. They're only just now beginning to recognize they actually don't, for all that money that went into research, have any more innovation. In fact, they probably have less than we do.
They're beginning to look at our model here in Ontario now, and actually they're introducing a new program called METS Ignited, which is exactly the same as CEMI. Their problem is that they're actually based at a university still, so they're still trying to funnel everything through the university system. CEMI and organizations like ours are independent of the university system, so we're working on a business footing exactly the same as the companies we're trying to work with. Our objectives are exactly the same as our client organizations'. We live or die by commercial success, not by academic government grant funding.