I can give you my thoughts on that.
I've been in nuclear power for many, many years, and I think for a county the size of Canada, it has to be able to focus. It has to focus on not everything but on something, do it very well, and support its own people in doing that.
CANDU, of course, is a very good example of this. What we find, and this partially ties into the comments that have just been made, is that the advantage that other countries have over Canada is localization. In other words, the Korean governments and some of these other governments that were discussed before will support their people very strongly, both financially and providing information for them, more so than we do.
In fact, we find as a small company that we're often in competition against our own government. I think that's totally wrong. In my belief, in some aspects the government's involvement is absolutely essential. That has to do particularly with pure research. People have to think of new ideas and they have to follow those ideas. Companies like ours can't afford that kind of research. Ours has to be very directed. It has to end up with a product, and that product has to end up with a sale, otherwise we can't do it. So that has to be left to somebody else. As far as I'm concerned, there's a tremendous opportunity for partnership between governments and smaller companies, and I'd like to emphasize the smaller companies rather than the larger companies. The smaller companies are the ones that want to grow or expand. They want a product that they can develop the company around. They're the ones really who need the support.
We have several products ourselves that we've been developing over the years. It's a very, very long-term proposition because of the cost. In many cases, as well, companies like ours will be short of not only the kind of expertise that might be available but also the testing equipment and the validation equipment that, let's say, governments have. We should have access to those. In fact, it should be more than access. There should be people from government looking after our shoulder, pushing the work that we do. I think that people, like at Chalk River, should be evaluated not on the work that they do, but on the achievements of the small companies that the government works with. I think that's what the objective should be.
The CANDU needs research, and I think that is the item that we should be pushing. I think it's about CANDU stations. The truth is that we haven't sold one in Canada for 20 years or so. There's not really very much effort to do that. We haven't developed CANDU 6, which has not been implemented, and the CANDU 9 as well. The advanced CANDU 9 is not implemented.
We talk about putting in—