Off the top of my head, I can't give you that, because it is varying. You would be looking at an hourly wage, off the top of my head, in the high $20s, low $30s, to start off, and higher, depending on the experience, apprenticeship, and the roleāthe piece of equipment or what part of the work the person is doing.
In fact, I believe under the Pickering plant there is actually a document that touches on some more of the economic skills of the workforce, and I can try to get that to the committee and share that with you if you wish. Unfortunately, I don't want to speak on the generalities, but they are very well-paid jobs. We take it very seriously because our members are trained to work in these sectors and work on the equipment. It is not an easy piece of equipment.
Just to let you know, if you look at the three cranes on West Block, you'll see three of our members. It takes anywhere between 4,500 to 6,000 hours to become a journeyperson on a crane. There's lots of training, there's lots of investment, and these people are paid for the work they do.