“More mature” might have been a better description of it. Is it picture-perfect? Surely not, but they've made tremendous strides. I think, if we look at it from the perspective of a global lens, with traditional operators now being really being savvy in developing new materials and new products and exporting them exporting around the world, they've certainly made great strides. The industry was seized with the need to transform itself.
Both federal and provincial governments have stepped up in a significant way over the past 15 years across different governments in power and clearly recognized that it was imperative to assist them. So the IFIT program has been a flagship program in that regard. Through successive rounds of funding over the past years, we've been able to support their transformation, especially for demonstration plants that are so costly for the firms, and we've seen projects right across the country, so that's certainly been a great success.