I'll offer this perspective. We are looking to engage with our counterpart in the U.S., with our equivalent, the ACEEE, the American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy. What we appreciate about ACEEE is that they have done their scoring—and this is something that we could consider about U.S.-Canada relations—and have developed a great policy assessment state-wise on how policies are working, whether that's around renewable energy, combined heat and power district energy, or energy efficiency.
What has that done? It's created an interesting process from a federal and a state perspective. States are actually competing to see who is driving effectively a policy that makes sense, relative to the demands of trying to put this forward. They've moved that down to a community level as well. At the municipal level, too, they're trying to see what kinds of policies are being put in place to really drive this.
Why I see that as being something that Canada can do is that I think it would also have the same effect, whereby we could start to compare how policies are having the intended outcome. We had earlier discussions, I think, with some of the other members, about whether policies actually are achieving what you want them to do. We haven't done a lot of that assessment. I think this is where we could head in terms of a direction that would help, whether it's on clean tech or right through. That's what ACEEE achieved. They didn't focus on clean tech; they just looked at energy as a whole and asked, “What are we doing well and what are we not doing well?”
We haven't done that. I think that's something we could do effectively across Canada.