For Sustainable Development Technology Canada, SDTC, I'm privileged to sit on their member council, so we do have a structural linkage there between that organization and ours.
Carbon Management Canada morphed out of a network centre of excellence that had been funded by NSERC, and they are sort of recreating themselves, but we do have a connection with those folks there as well.
I guess the trick and the art in all of this is to focus as much as you can on what you're trying to accomplish but not necessarily on how. In some cases, we take a portfolio approach. In some cases we do take a bottom-up, more passive approach. We essentially ask if anyone has a good idea about how to make a certain kind of valve.
The other end of the spectrum is to be very directed and deliberate and to say that this is the exact piece of technology that we need. We're exploring something with both SDTC and a fund in Alberta called Climate Change and Emissions Management Corporation, CCEMC, which is a multi-hundred-million dollar fund that is populated by a carbon charge that the Alberta government levies on what we call large final emitters. I sit on that board, and along with many of our partners, we're exploring the concept of directed innovation.
Instead of just asking innovators what their good ideas are, we take the time to sit back and we plan and [Technical difficulty—Editor].