In terms of modernizing, there is no question in my mind going forward that, in any decarbonization scenario, the distribution grid is going to become far more complex than it is today. The consumer will get more involved in the electricity system through variable demand, how electric vehicles are charged, and what not. The transmission system, which overlays that and has to connect that, is also going to get more complicated than it is today. Any time we do renewal and upgrade, the way forward and how things are going have to be factored in.
In terms of strategic interties, whenever I look at a map of Canada, I always hear talk of the east-west grid. I have lived in northwestern Ontario for a period of time and flown over there a lot. There's not a lot of empty space up there, but if you look of our opportunities, I always think of Ontario-east, and Manitoba-west. There was some reference to that before. Manitoba and B.C. still have hydro resources to develop, and clearly, there are needs to reduce the use of coal and fossil fuels in Saskatchewan and Alberta.
It's a little different in Ontario in terms of there not being as much to displace now that coal is out. There is still some gas, but if we look at the use of electricity to displace transportation fuels and space heating, we see that we're going to need more. It's a question of how Ontario and Quebec will do a better job of working together, whether.... I'm not sure “competing” is the right term, but it's a different relationship in terms of where investments are made and how they're made. It's different from the past, but I always like to say Ontario-east and Manitoba-west are where the big opportunities are.