I was just going to highlight a couple of things. Funding for standards doesn't really fit in normal buckets. There's often money for research and for commercialization, but to build some of those building blocks, when you go and ask people for funding, whether it's industry or government, they say they don't have a program for standards. That's one of the issues we're dealing with, which is a little bit different from the fact that we are having those issues with industry not being able to fund, like our offshore oil and gas program.