The forest in Sweden is mostly privately owned. Particularly in specific areas of technology, they absolutely are more advanced. In the area of bioheat, Scandinavians are advanced well beyond us. Most of the technologies that would be applied in Canada would probably come from either Scandinavian or Austria. Those are two parts of the world that are extremely advanced and have been using community heat for quite a long time.
More broadly, on the issues facing forestry, we have a lot to share and learn from each other. I was meeting with SweTree, for instance, which specializes in tree breeding and tree advancements. Earlier in the year, I asked a federal-provincial team to go over to Sweden, and folks from J.D. Irving were on that and were engaged in conversations with SweTree. I think there are areas there around tree breeding where we can learn from them and perhaps they can learn from us.
I think one area where Sweden is particularly interested in what Canada is doing is in the space of “pilots”. Programs like IFIT, which are very much about first commercialization of risky technology in the sector, helping innovations move through that valley of death, are something that the Swedes don't have. They look to us for some of those innovations.