At the present time, we're not producing any cross-laminated timber as part of the J.D. Irving operations. We see that as a way to increase Canadian lumber consumption and be less dependent on the U.S. market in the long term. We are studying different technologies to manufacture cross-laminated timber. I think the Europeans are world leaders in that market. We've been visiting plants to see what is the best technology to produce cross-laminated timber using Canadian eastern species.
We're not in production. We're looking at it very seriously. We think it's a great market opportunity for the softwood lumber producers in Canada.