A number of years ago we started down a path with the City of Saint John. A pulp mill the size of our pulp mill has enough waste heat to power virtually every building in the city core, both residential and commercial. Every Scandinavian community that has a pulp mill has very well-developed district heating concepts. The problem is that they are extremely capital intensive to get up and running and that generally requires some kind of independent intermediary between their pulp manufacturer and the distributor. Generally that's how they run.
Whenever we sat down with a local city to look at the opportunity, capital became the issue. It's one of those things that once the capital is in the ground, they have very long-term paybacks. If the federal government really wanted to get that, they're going to have to start to put a strategy in place and there's going to have to be some infrastructure money to help municipalities go in that direction.