Okay.
You mentioned fires. We had a lot of fires in British Columbia this year, and there were fires in Alberta previously. It's happening more and more. It's a real concern in British Columbia as we get these hotter, drier summers. In interface areas such as where I live, people are very concerned about the safety.
One thing that the Filmon report said back in 2004 was that a good program of thinning forests around interface areas would provide jobs and provide materials for the forest industry but also make cities safer. The provincial government has not been very good at funding this. I'm just wondering if there's any role the federal government might play in the future in terms of public safety mixing with helping the forest industry. We talked about waste products, small timbers that could be used by pulp or whatever, so that we could get jobs as well as safer communities.