Yes. I'll talk particularly about our company. We believe very heavily in investing in our people. We have full-time trainers on staff. We believe in promoting internally. The current president of our company started off 30 years ago piling lumber in our remanufacturing plant, and that's quite the testimony of what can happen. That's very important to us.
I would like to just comment on one thing that the gentleman from Irving said. They are probably the greatest integrated company in Canada from top to bottom in terms of value added, and they deserve a lot of credit for that. But there are still certain products—like this—that we buy from Irving as well...that it comes to a point where they have to move it on. They are the “poster child”, if I can use that term, for fully integrated and value added in the system.
If I could just have two seconds, I have one other final thing. Years ago I was talking to the president of the parent organization in the States for the sawmill industry, and he equated us, being the remanufacturers, to innocent victims of a drive-by shooting. He said, “Rick, you're not our targets. The sawmills are our targets. You're the inadvertent collateral damage.”
You've heard me being very impassioned about jobs today. But if Minister Carr is truly going to call on the people around this table to help decide what to do in the event of a quota agreement or anything else, please help us not become that innocent victim again.