It's a good question. As I said, the mills are highly automated. They've spent a lot of money. Irving has acknowledged that they are one of the top ones in terms of what they've been able to do, and what they've been able to do is great. It has produced a lot of lumber with very few people. If you go to some of the most modern sawmills out there today, you might see seven people working there. It's all computerized. At ours, every piece gets touched by somebody's hand, so there is a direct correlation between our volumes and our people.
I don't know if there is a precise number. The number that you hear tossed around is on a volumetric basis. We have about seven jobs to every one the sawmill has. We can argue whether it's seven or six, but it's something like that. In other words, a truckload of lumber on an annual basis might take one person at the sawmill; it would take about seven people at a remanufacturing facility.