That's very generous, Geng. Thank you.
I'm not a regular member of this committee, but I am happily filling today. I want to ask a question about carbon neutrality.
You mentioned, Mr. Moonen, at the outset of your presentation the many benefits that wood provides from an environmental perspective. If you put all those into one category, and compare it with another category, that being the cutting of trees, do we still end up in a carbon neutral situation?