That's very interesting.
I'll go now to the United Steelworkers' Wood Council.
Obviously, the softwood lumber issue is a huge challenge for all of us, and we're trying to do it with a lot of representation in the United States. Would it be harder for you with your colleagues in the United States? What type of relationship do you have? I suppose it's a competitive thing, because what helps them doesn't help us.
Is there any way of interacting that can help us in getting some sensible equality in the supply of wood?