I just want to add from a technical perspective that I completely agree, but also from a policy perspective, Europe is ahead of us. In Canada, there's some wood procurement policy, if you want, but we're working with the federal government to have some kind of low-carbon policy that would allow that. For example, we're working on the building codes.
Another concept that Europe is ahead of us in is called embodied energy. When you're building a building, you also have to look at the material and not just the energy used. We're still far away from that in Canada. We are working with the government right now through the building codes, but it's another aspect that allows wood to be used.
We are still ahead of the United States though. Europe is ahead of us.