The lumber prices are high, but 20% is going to countervailing duties to the United States, so in my mind, the lumber prices are the same as they were about 18 months ago. We're investing as we typically would have done 18 months ago. We have seen energy projects, prefabricated wall, and some investment in engineered wood, but without those countervailing duties, if the price was where it is, there would be a lot more investment.
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