There is another issue I'm highly passionate about. We've done some wonderful things. I don't know, for example, if you're familiar with Women in Wood or Women for Nature. Just be forewarned, gentlemen, the women in forestry are getting themselves together.
Championing, demonstrating, giving women opportunities—we are trying very hard. I'm looking at Ms. Rudd because in NRCan we've been trying very hard for things like conferences to make sure that women are participating as much as men on the panels. Women have very strong voices in the forest industry, but we need those outlets. Those types of things are crucial, and we have work to do on the glass ceiling as well.