Thank you all for coming before us here today.
I'm going to start with a very high-elevation question, just to change gears. As you know, I'm a big supporter of the forest industry; I'd like to see it succeed. There's a lot in my riding and my province. I'm from British Columbia, I'm an ecologist, I come from a biology background, and I've worked with forest companies in the past. Ms. Cobden mentioned that sustainability is paramount. That's where I come from with the forest industry. I'm very much a supporter, but I demand sustainability, and you said that was important. Mr. Badcock said we were underharvesting by 30%; that's the first time I've heard that figure.
I just wondered if maybe both of you could comment on this. In British Columbia, most foresters would admit that we were overharvesting for a century and now things have changed. We are seeing drastic reductions in the annual allowable cut, partly because of that and partly because of beetles and fires. We have climate change coming. I'm just wondering if you could perhaps—it's a big question—briefly comment on where you see sustainability in Canadian forestry, where we could harvest 30% more and still maintain the environment in the way Canadians demand. I don't want to mention the word “caribou”, but I just have.