Okay. One thing I also learned at the natural resources forum was about the vast amount of wood pellets coming out of your region, both from your company and others, that is going through Prince Rupert and on to England and things like that to create energy. It was quite an eye-opener.
I want to come back to your home company and the panels you're making, the structural work. Can you export those products to the United States without softwood lumber tariffs? Or could you?