Is there a better way? I think there are two aspects. When you're looking at a project you're always faced with capital, and you can't go to a bank for innovative products. You can try. I'm thrilled to see BDC and EDC funding that will free up capital for organizations like us, and we're in discussion with them, but the reality is there is a funding gap. Our project is to confirm that it works. The ability for the government to step in where there aren't other sources of funding—
On February 6th, 2018. See this statement in context.